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>> well, the defense is salivating from michael cohen. that's going to be the big one of course. and the prosecution is going to be nervous. this is an admitted perjure admitted liar, and someone who's had a lot of trouble. i mean, even in this case, he promised everybody he'd stopped going on social media and we wanted that last a couple of hours. so the defense needs a width in at some point in one of these battles, cinco de mile, the french lost that battle to the mexican army. the fence needs, needs to win. this week because it's looking pretty bleak right now. >> yeah, and our reporters inside the courtroom have been saying that trump has been closing his eyes, leaning back in his chair for a lot of the testimony, he then posted on truth social that he's not sleeping, he's actually listening intently regardless, what kind of impact do you think that behavior is having, if any, on the jury well the jury is watching every single thing that both trump and his lawyers do from the minute they walk into the courtroom to the minute they leave. >> and so they see him falling asleep.
>> well, the defense is salivating from michael cohen. that's going to be the big one of course. and the prosecution is going to be nervous. this is an admitted perjure admitted liar, and someone who's had a lot of trouble. i mean, even in this case, he promised everybody he'd stopped going on social media and we wanted that last a couple of hours. so the defense needs a width in at some point in one of these battles, cinco de mile, the french lost that battle to the mexican army. the...
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but at the end of the de, they want the jury to be able to hear michael cohen and separate what he's saying under oath from what maybe defense attorneys have brought up in the time since he was announced to be a key witness. all right. we shall see because they are not releasing who they're calling because they're afraid of what the former president will do to those say about those people? >> zachary cohen, we know you'll be watching and thanks so much and joining me now, former deputy assistant attorney general, tom dupree and seen in legal analyst and former white house ethics czar norm eisen. >> norm investigated trump as counsel for the house judiciary committee in the first impeachment trial of donald trump and litigated caveat cases involving him previously, he's also the editor of the book, trying trump, a guide to his first election interference, criminal trial. great to have you both norm, let's start first with you. you have been in the courtroom for this trial, which has been probably quite interesting. you described it as they're being electricity surging through the cour
but at the end of the de, they want the jury to be able to hear michael cohen and separate what he's saying under oath from what maybe defense attorneys have brought up in the time since he was announced to be a key witness. all right. we shall see because they are not releasing who they're calling because they're afraid of what the former president will do to those say about those people? >> zachary cohen, we know you'll be watching and thanks so much and joining me now, former deputy...
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they know they have a witness in michael cohen who is weak. they're trying to put around him a bunch of evidence so they can argue to the jury this is not just about michael cohen. we have a whole bunch of evidence this conspiracy did in fact occur. also what i read and saw that may be another reason why it former president trump was concerned about the stormy daniels case. and that is in regards to if there is a separate intent rather to impact the election that would hurt the prosecution case big time. arthel: she mentioned the president was concerned about mrs. trump it would not want a story like that whatever dalliance he had with a pouring star. she was with child brittany waite michael cohen is a big boy and he can stand up for himself. so, if he does take the stand this week what questions can we expect from prosecution? >> i think the prosecution will seek to elicit the facts surrounding the arrangement they key in crucial the prosecution is going to have to establish their michael cohen is that the former president knew it. that the
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michael cohen was not a person that i knew to be selfless. he was the sort of person who was out for credit. so in one blow, hope hicks both dammed the defense very badly and in damaging michael cohen, also help to the prosecution quite a bit. both softening the jury up for the character there about to meet but also almost throwing him under the bus in order to save the case. it wasn't credible to her that michael cohen would have paid this because he was not that guy. >> the other piece she seems to endorse when she gets there is she makes clear that she was basically the communications director. he was in charge of the message and who the message was delivered to. she basically put reporters on the phone and facilitated things but he was a micromanager. >> her communications director experience was not like yours i will venture to say. she, as it medications director, i think you are right. she was a mouthpiece. as she said today, they view trump as a communication savant. that is why the team was as small as y it was. they didn't need all
michael cohen was not a person that i knew to be selfless. he was the sort of person who was out for credit. so in one blow, hope hicks both dammed the defense very badly and in damaging michael cohen, also help to the prosecution quite a bit. both softening the jury up for the character there about to meet but also almost throwing him under the bus in order to save the case. it wasn't credible to her that michael cohen would have paid this because he was not that guy. >> the other piece...
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cohen, but the prosecution did warn the jury at the very beginning of this trial that michael cohen was a complicated witness and trying to separate the fact that he is not very well liked amongst these other witnesses from the facts as they put it, that'll come out of his mouth when he does take the stand. >> all right. that cohen. thanks so much all right. >> we're also following new developments in israel where the government has shut down news network al jazeera in how would really happen tonight at nine on cnn if you have graves disease and blurry vision, you need clear answers. people with graves could also get thyroid eye disease, or ted, which may need a different doctor find a ted is specialist at is-it ted.com. today. >> and america's beverage companies are models might still look the same, but they can be remade in a whole away. thanks to you. >> we're getting bottles back and we've developed a way to make new ones from 100% recycled plastic, new bottles made using no new plastic you'll be seeing more of these bottles in more places. >> and when we get more of them back,
cohen, but the prosecution did warn the jury at the very beginning of this trial that michael cohen was a complicated witness and trying to separate the fact that he is not very well liked amongst these other witnesses from the facts as they put it, that'll come out of his mouth when he does take the stand. >> all right. that cohen. thanks so much all right. >> we're also following new developments in israel where the government has shut down news network al jazeera in how would...
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think michael cohen would do this out of the kindness of his heart? she admits no, probably not. that was a moment that stood out to me.>> heading into the trial, people were questioned on whether this is a hush money case or an election interference case. has the testimony built out that part of the case?>> it has built out the rationale for hushing up miss daniels was to keep this information from the electorate, so far, that has been confirmed. what has not been confirmed yet is that donald trump directed michael cohen to make the payment. this is excellent for the execution. who is in a better position to know about the access hollywood tape, and the devastating crisis and impact on the campaign? that gives a rationale about why it was so important for donald trump to silence stormy daniels, because they could have one more thing happened before the election. the position is being forceful, deliberate, and piece by piece, they are building up to the 34 counts in each case, and each of those counts, 11 checks, 11 invoices, 12 invoices, are these 34
think michael cohen would do this out of the kindness of his heart? she admits no, probably not. that was a moment that stood out to me.>> heading into the trial, people were questioned on whether this is a hush money case or an election interference case. has the testimony built out that part of the case?>> it has built out the rationale for hushing up miss daniels was to keep this information from the electorate, so far, that has been confirmed. what has not been confirmed yet is...
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you also want an investigation of michael cohen. tell me what you're doing with regard to that and how would you assess this trial right now for trump? the. >> this is a political witch hunt against biden's opponent if who is donald trump, and it's because democrats not win at tht box. the fact that they have a gag order on president trump in the midst of a presidential campaign shows how desperate they are. you have a corrupt judge in judge merchan. not only did he donate personally to the biden campaign, but an immediate member of his family is raising millions of dollars off the trial itself and to the tune of nearly $90 million, maria. this is corrupt to its core, and yet this is -- the left and the corrupt doj, this is apparently what they're doing with lawfare, and we need to stand strong and make sure that this never happens again. when it comes to the star witness for this political witch hunt, this is an individual who perjured himself in front of congress, who is a known liar. finish and i urge the department of justice to
you also want an investigation of michael cohen. tell me what you're doing with regard to that and how would you assess this trial right now for trump? the. >> this is a political witch hunt against biden's opponent if who is donald trump, and it's because democrats not win at tht box. the fact that they have a gag order on president trump in the midst of a presidential campaign shows how desperate they are. you have a corrupt judge in judge merchan. not only did he donate personally to...
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michael cohen is a flawed witness. if you come up with a pre- bottle, you got david , you have keith davidson and now you have karen mcdougal and stormy daniels. by the time that michael cohen takes a stand the jurors will already have seen the facts and they are going to be more willing to believe him. i do not believe that michael cohen will be the final witness. he is a flawed witness. they go into the deliberation room, they are working really hard to point out these in advance to give the evidence in advance to protect michael cohen to create the firewall and i think that's working. >> this is the week that the prosecution will likely start focusing on that. what documents will the jury see? >> they're going to see the signed checks. reimbursing michael cohen for his hush money payments to stormy daniels. we have already seen a ton of email exchanges and we know that donald trump didn't send emails, but all of his under links did. the combination of his text messages to david parker and dylan howard, the national
michael cohen is a flawed witness. if you come up with a pre- bottle, you got david , you have keith davidson and now you have karen mcdougal and stormy daniels. by the time that michael cohen takes a stand the jurors will already have seen the facts and they are going to be more willing to believe him. i do not believe that michael cohen will be the final witness. he is a flawed witness. they go into the deliberation room, they are working really hard to point out these in advance to give the...
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cohen and look, michael cohen is the witness that really we have all been waiting to take the stand, prosecutors every witness they put on the stand, and they even warm the jury in there opening statement that michael cohen is a little bit of a difficult witness of sorts. he is somebody who has lied in the past. they're trying to set the stage for him and in his mind or the jury to know that he has lied, but tried to take the facts as they come out of his mouth all right. >> is that cohen thanks so much. let's talk more about all this now with michael moore, he is a former us attorney and cnn legal analysts at great to see you. >> good. >> okay. so let's begin with that dramatic moment involving hope hicks testimony. what might the jury have been thinking about all weekend long as it pertains to her testimony well, i'm happy to be with you here. i'll set anytime that you have a witness, it's close into the organization. if there's a trial about a group or an organization, this case, an alleged conspiracy when you have somebody that's sort of an inside player that's a big deal to the
cohen and look, michael cohen is the witness that really we have all been waiting to take the stand, prosecutors every witness they put on the stand, and they even warm the jury in there opening statement that michael cohen is a little bit of a difficult witness of sorts. he is somebody who has lied in the past. they're trying to set the stage for him and in his mind or the jury to know that he has lied, but tried to take the facts as they come out of his mouth all right. >> is that cohen...
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cohen. headline from the "washington post" said one thing is clear and trumps new york trial nobody like michael cohen. and yet that is of the prosecution spent in the case and he's got to be the key to connecting all this. >> is seen other legal experts make the argument donald trump of simply taking michael cohen's advice how can you charge and convict someone for taking advice from their attorney? the democrats in general have been helping the number of these trials and legal issues that brought upon former president donald trump will help them on the campaign trail. there actu are actually a lot of people paying attention to this trial according to polling will be asked a question about whether it would change her vote? majority of people say it will not spread this a good percentage of people who say it will encourage them to vote for president trump right that's not working in their favor in terms of politics. shannon: to your point, jonathan turley says cohen is going to come take the
cohen. headline from the "washington post" said one thing is clear and trumps new york trial nobody like michael cohen. and yet that is of the prosecution spent in the case and he's got to be the key to connecting all this. >> is seen other legal experts make the argument donald trump of simply taking michael cohen's advice how can you charge and convict someone for taking advice from their attorney? the democrats in general have been helping the number of these trials and legal...
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she talked a lot about michael cohen. what you see happening this week? >> i see the prosecution alan bragg's office and the manhattan district attorney's office i feel like this was a blow to their case in this instance. hope hicks testified she was part of the white house team in the communications during the campaign she testified the payment was not about election interference but about public embarrassment. that certainly deals a blow to the prosecution because the prosecution is saying the ex- presidents made these payments in order to help his campaign she sank know, this is personal reasons. this is the same thing we have seen previous presidential candidate use, jon edwards used when he was accused of making payments to a woman who was the prosecution claims as election interference of the jury finds it for personal reasons' we were here's what she set on both sides of the coin what ms. hicks testified to was quote he was concerned how it would be viewed by his wife. and he wanted me too make sure the newspapers were not delivered to their reside
she talked a lot about michael cohen. what you see happening this week? >> i see the prosecution alan bragg's office and the manhattan district attorney's office i feel like this was a blow to their case in this instance. hope hicks testified she was part of the white house team in the communications during the campaign she testified the payment was not about election interference but about public embarrassment. that certainly deals a blow to the prosecution because the prosecution is...
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they have already been attacking michael cohen before he has even shown up. at the end of the day the really hard question is going to be trump's lawyer took out like a home equity loan on his house and paid for this with his own money and then got it reimbursed by trump as a business expense. it was grossed up by trump to avoid taxes and alike. how could that possibly be his own idea with no involvement or knowledge by trump? i think that is really what the jury is going to focus on, and with the hope hicks testimony we saw another possible defense. he knew something about these payments but was worried about protecting the story from coming out to about will have two big problems. he does not. to be worried about her very much throughout his lifetime, and that he really appears according to the testimony to just want the catch and killed operation to take it through the election. he was not as worried about anyone else finding about it afterwards when he was president. he just wanted to keep you from the american people. that is where hope hicks was so deva
they have already been attacking michael cohen before he has even shown up. at the end of the day the really hard question is going to be trump's lawyer took out like a home equity loan on his house and paid for this with his own money and then got it reimbursed by trump as a business expense. it was grossed up by trump to avoid taxes and alike. how could that possibly be his own idea with no involvement or knowledge by trump? i think that is really what the jury is going to focus on, and with...
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. >> another interpretation is that donald trump's attorney, michael cohen, paid hush money for to hide from the american people before the election. the fact that mr. trump had had a rendezvous with a porn star, and that they wanted to hide that from the american people until after the election. so far the evidence, and i've scene suggests there are at least was some political motivation to this and they hit it so as to hide that from the public. that's a little bit more than just checking the wrong box on a form. but let's move on because i want to ask you about something else, mr. trump said he the new york times reported that that last night mr. trump said that some americans get quote, welfare to vote is that how you see the electorate? you have, i think more than 100,000 north dakota is on medicaid are they getting welfare to vote? >> no and, i don't think that's the intention that he meant when he when he said that, but i i do think that what we have here is the when joe biden, he can't campaign on i mean, it's open border policies 2016. that was about immigration. now, it's abou
. >> another interpretation is that donald trump's attorney, michael cohen, paid hush money for to hide from the american people before the election. the fact that mr. trump had had a rendezvous with a porn star, and that they wanted to hide that from the american people until after the election. so far the evidence, and i've scene suggests there are at least was some political motivation to this and they hit it so as to hide that from the public. that's a little bit more than just...
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i think the it makes michael cohen look far worse. obviously, a known liar, convicted liar and somebody who desperately wanted to be a part of the trump administration. so i think once again as judge jeanine said the other day on "the five," fun -- none of this has touched donald trump that i think results in a conviction. we'll have to the wait and see. but i think michael cohen, if that's their star witness, again, this seems to be falling apart before their very eyes. howard: one thing that nobody seemed to like, dealing with michael cohen. and after the election, he wasn't -- hadn't been repaid. he was later, for the $150,000 payment. and he toll keith davidson who was the lawyer for both stormy daniels and karen mcdougal -- excuse me, he toll davidson, yeah, that can you f-ing believe i'm not going to washington after everything i've done for that f-ing guy? he wanted a job in the white house. does any of this matter? and on cross-examination, by the way, don -- juan, excuse me, so excited about this. trump's lawyer asked davidso
i think the it makes michael cohen look far worse. obviously, a known liar, convicted liar and somebody who desperately wanted to be a part of the trump administration. so i think once again as judge jeanine said the other day on "the five," fun -- none of this has touched donald trump that i think results in a conviction. we'll have to the wait and see. but i think michael cohen, if that's their star witness, again, this seems to be falling apart before their very eyes. howard: one...
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the michael cohen she knew was not a selfless person. he was the first person to want to take credit for anything, he was not especially generous. without saying trump liked her, effectively, she was revealing i felt betrayed and lied to by donald trump. having to say that with donald trump right in front of her and confronted him with that i think was an emotional moment for hope hicks, and therefore, when she got to the very beginning of her cross- examination just moments later, she was overcome by the emotion of it all and broke down. >> let's cut and scratch the surface there. it is important to undermine michael cohen's credibility. so hope hicks, if she thinks she's helping donald trump, doesn't want to make michael cohen seem like a good guy who might have done this as a selfless act. but in doing that, did she realize she might have been contradicting donald trump or suggesting something that was not helpful to his defense? >> she absolutely understood what she was saying. i want to make clear to both you and our viewers, that i
the michael cohen she knew was not a selfless person. he was the first person to want to take credit for anything, he was not especially generous. without saying trump liked her, effectively, she was revealing i felt betrayed and lied to by donald trump. having to say that with donald trump right in front of her and confronted him with that i think was an emotional moment for hope hicks, and therefore, when she got to the very beginning of her cross- examination just moments later, she was...
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cohen's payment to stormy daniels zoo. trump allegedly had an affair with and tried to cover it up with those hush money payments kristen, you've been covering this trial? but what was your takeaway about what stood out to this week? >> well, the prosecution certainly did their job with hope x. i mean, it was very clear she was composed, she was poised, she was very honest about everything that had happened and the other part of this is that she's not somebody like michael cohen who has an ax to grind with donald trump. they hadn't welcome for two years. that was because her testimony in front of the january 6 committee was made public. there was a lot of ice around some of the text messages she sent that essentially insulted the president and his orbit was very angry. but the two of them still have very much mutual admiration for each other. they both speak very highly of each other. they have a relationship that was clear when she was on the stand she was one of the first people that was part of donald trump's campaign.
cohen's payment to stormy daniels zoo. trump allegedly had an affair with and tried to cover it up with those hush money payments kristen, you've been covering this trial? but what was your takeaway about what stood out to this week? >> well, the prosecution certainly did their job with hope x. i mean, it was very clear she was composed, she was poised, she was very honest about everything that had happened and the other part of this is that she's not somebody like michael cohen who has...
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and michael cohen makes those points. even though the defense will attack his credibility, the foundation has been laid. we have heard this from multiple witnesses. witnesses who were favorable to donald trump. davidpecker said very favorable things about donald trump and so did hope hicks. they were from the witnesses to him. so when michael cohen comes on and they say that he has an ax to grind, it will fall flat with the jury. >> so there is a duality to what is happening here. the criminal trial is proceeding and then the conversation being had about the gag order. we know donald trump has paid a $9000 fine and there will be a hearing on four other potential violations of the gag order. at the same time, you have former president trump on truth settled just on saturday with this. all the so-called evidence by the cricket joe biden fascist prosecutors has nothing to do with the phony crime case against me. virtually, every great legal scholars says the crooked new york city d.a. alvin bragg was allowing violent crime t
and michael cohen makes those points. even though the defense will attack his credibility, the foundation has been laid. we have heard this from multiple witnesses. witnesses who were favorable to donald trump. davidpecker said very favorable things about donald trump and so did hope hicks. they were from the witnesses to him. so when michael cohen comes on and they say that he has an ax to grind, it will fall flat with the jury. >> so there is a duality to what is happening here. the...
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trump is taking michael cohen's advice. but democrats in general have been hoping that a number of these trials and legal issues they've brought upon former president donald trump will help them on the campaign trail. a lot of people are paying attention to this trial according to polling but asking the question if it will change their about the majority of people say it will not end a good percentage of people say it will encourage them to vote for president trump so it's not working in their favour. >> shannon: so jonathan turley said no cohen is going to come to the room and said he will make a pitch to the jury... this would be difficult even for a competent and ethical lawyer. for cohen it's utter insanity but they're betting on a new york jury looking no further than the identity of the defendants. >> this is a sad situation. our criminal justice system is supposed to target people who violated the law, not target people because of who they are. in this particular case i think the judge has found himself in a very dif
trump is taking michael cohen's advice. but democrats in general have been hoping that a number of these trials and legal issues they've brought upon former president donald trump will help them on the campaign trail. a lot of people are paying attention to this trial according to polling but asking the question if it will change their about the majority of people say it will not end a good percentage of people say it will encourage them to vote for president trump so it's not working in their...
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where are we in the prosecution case and we haven't yet seen michael cohen how much longer do you expect the prosecution to go and then we'll have the defense where do you feel like we are? we're not even at halftime yet. >> hope hicks when she was testifying at the courthouse, and she was the first kind of big name person you know how they've held the witness list very close. to the vest, so when they announced next up for the prosecution hope hicks there was literally a gasp in that room like oh boy she was supernervous when she got started emotional at times throughout the day. but yeah we're going start getting i think to the more high profile witnesses are we going to hear from mcdougal stormy daniels also prosecution has a ways to go with the team that it's bringing in but the fact is, as we've observed over the first few weeks of this, what's happened is nobody in that courtroom seems to like michael cohen the prosecution has to keep him rehabilitated enough to be kind of their key witness in the whole thing while also acknowledging he's been called a liar by a federal judge and t
where are we in the prosecution case and we haven't yet seen michael cohen how much longer do you expect the prosecution to go and then we'll have the defense where do you feel like we are? we're not even at halftime yet. >> hope hicks when she was testifying at the courthouse, and she was the first kind of big name person you know how they've held the witness list very close. to the vest, so when they announced next up for the prosecution hope hicks there was literally a gasp in that...
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cohen who has an ax to grind with donald trump. they hadn't spoken for two years. that was because her testimony in front of the january 6 committee was made public. >> there was a lot of ice around some of the text messages she sent that essentially insulted the president and his orbit was very angry. >> but the two of them still have very much mutual admiration for each other. they both speak very highly of each other. they have a relationship that was clear when she was on the stand, she was one of the first people that was part of donald trump's campaign. she was in it and she was part of everything and the prosecution's job there to outline what that looked like. they did that and i was pretty powerful. >> in meantime, i've put the question a number of republicans about the allegations of all was all republicans are defending trump against these prosecutions. they think it's unfair. they see two jira system of justice that's their argument. but what just the underlying allegations of donald trump allegedly making hush money pa
cohen who has an ax to grind with donald trump. they hadn't spoken for two years. that was because her testimony in front of the january 6 committee was made public. >> there was a lot of ice around some of the text messages she sent that essentially insulted the president and his orbit was very angry. >> but the two of them still have very much mutual admiration for each other. they both speak very highly of each other. they have a relationship that was clear when she was on the...
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and trump is clearly complicit in breaking the same laws that michael cohen pled guilty to and served prison time for. >> so tell me how can the fixer who delivers the hush be guilty of election interference? >> but the candidate who orders it pays it conceals it, and benefits from it not be charles manson didn't personally go on the killing spree, but he went to prison for it. el troppo didn't have the drugs in his michael corleone had somebody else shoot moe greene. i'm just saying the problem the problem the problem with this case isn't a trump isn't guilty, it's that it's being tried in the wrong court. if garland had done his job, trump would be in federal court charged with breaking campaign finance laws instead of state court charged with falsifying business records and then there's the case of the stolen files and trump's bathroom croppers delight for months after trump left office, the national archives began asking him to return the documents he illegally took with him and after being ignored for nine months, they passed the case off to garland, who should have sent the fbi
and trump is clearly complicit in breaking the same laws that michael cohen pled guilty to and served prison time for. >> so tell me how can the fixer who delivers the hush be guilty of election interference? >> but the candidate who orders it pays it conceals it, and benefits from it not be charles manson didn't personally go on the killing spree, but he went to prison for it. el troppo didn't have the drugs in his michael corleone had somebody else shoot moe greene. i'm just...
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donald trump's former fixer, michael cohen . fixer, michael cohen. >> and how do you think this is actually affecting donald trump himself? because we've seen, haven't we, scott lucas in previous trials that this actually helps him a lot in the polls is, it feeds into his narrative, doesn't it, of him versus the establishment. but actually, i think for the first time in this trial, we have seen him getting somewhat frustrated . him getting somewhat frustrated. do you think that's because it's been such a long trial so far? >> well, i think it was always a bit of a myth. more it was a spin line by the trumpists that the trials always help him . you the trials always help him. you know, they kind of say that because it's like, oh, don't put him on trial or else he'll win, i don't think it helped him. for example, when he was found guilty of defamation and sexual assault of e jean carroll the writer, it won't help him with women voters. in terms of this trial, what's compounded that is that trump is kind of limited in what he can say, because of course, he risked getting fined if he lashes out
donald trump's former fixer, michael cohen . fixer, michael cohen. >> and how do you think this is actually affecting donald trump himself? because we've seen, haven't we, scott lucas in previous trials that this actually helps him a lot in the polls is, it feeds into his narrative, doesn't it, of him versus the establishment. but actually, i think for the first time in this trial, we have seen him getting somewhat frustrated . him getting somewhat frustrated. do you think that's because...
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we didn't choose michael cohen. donald trump did. >> hope hicks testified at length about the access hollywood tape calling it a quote crisis for trump's campaign. what was the significance of that part of her testimony? >> it provides the incentive for donald trump to do what he is alleged to have done. to silence these additional allegations by karen mcdougal and stormy daniels right at the same time. his campaign is really foundering at this moment this comes out because of information there of the recording disparaging to women. so if at the very same time, voters now hear about stormy daniels and karen mcdougal, that could have been the final nail in the coffin. to fulfill this conspiracy david pecker talked about. >> hicks said she didn't remember attending the 2015 meeting where they asked david pecker to sway the election. does that ding david credibility at all? >> i don't think so. she didn't say it didn't happen. she just doesn't remember being there. that goes back to events that happened nine years ago.
we didn't choose michael cohen. donald trump did. >> hope hicks testified at length about the access hollywood tape calling it a quote crisis for trump's campaign. what was the significance of that part of her testimony? >> it provides the incentive for donald trump to do what he is alleged to have done. to silence these additional allegations by karen mcdougal and stormy daniels right at the same time. his campaign is really foundering at this moment this comes out because of...
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cohen do this under the goodness of his heart, out of his own volition. and it came to that, this was for donald. this was not something that michael would do in a benevolent nature. not only that, we have the david pecker testimony really tying us to the fact that this is an election interference case which i think makes it more compelling. this was an effort to keep information from the voting public. hopefully that is what the prosecution is trying to do, seek and prevent a hung jury. when you have some people see the severity of it and see that there was actually intent to, which hope hicks also said, and i'm going on. but she said it was a crisis in the campaign after the access hollywood. that tells me that his intent. you have that tape and now you need to conceal his information. >> the theater of how donald trump performs to me is more interesting than the evidence at trial. >> but do you not think there was any theater to hope hicks? she was crying, she was fragile. she was the person one inch away from all four years. during charlottesville, af
cohen do this under the goodness of his heart, out of his own volition. and it came to that, this was for donald. this was not something that michael would do in a benevolent nature. not only that, we have the david pecker testimony really tying us to the fact that this is an election interference case which i think makes it more compelling. this was an effort to keep information from the voting public. hopefully that is what the prosecution is trying to do, seek and prevent a hung jury. when...
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michael cohen. who says no, i'll take care of it. michael cohen. that's the defense, that donald trump was aloof, and this was this rogue actor, michael cohen , acting without donald trump office knowledge. that's the defense's perspective. >> trump is still going after judge merchan , calling the trial abide in witchhunt, and accusing merchan of allowing unfair evidence, of course using no evidence to back this up. this after being fined over $9000 this week for violating the gag order. what do you make of his boldness here, his impunity here ? is jailing him the only way to force trump to comply with the judge's order? >> well he's allowed under the order to completely attack the judge to attack district attorney bragg. he's not allowed to say negative, positive, anything's, about witnesses, or about jurors. when he says he can't speak, that's not true, he can speak about the case. he can speak about the judge. he can speak about the district attorney, just not intimidate witnesses or jurors. >> you think he would have at least learned a lesson,
michael cohen. who says no, i'll take care of it. michael cohen. that's the defense, that donald trump was aloof, and this was this rogue actor, michael cohen , acting without donald trump office knowledge. that's the defense's perspective. >> trump is still going after judge merchan , calling the trial abide in witchhunt, and accusing merchan of allowing unfair evidence, of course using no evidence to back this up. this after being fined over $9000 this week for violating the gag order....
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she also told the jury about conversations she had with former trump fixer michael cohen and trump when reports of karen mcdougal and stormy daniel's first surfaced in early november 2016, saying trump wanted to make sure that there was a denial of any kind of relationship in a significant moment or prosecutors hicks revealed trump communicated directly to her about the payment to daniels? i only know about one instance, sometime in the middle of february, mr. trump told me about it and trump was relieved that the story did not come out before the election. it was mr. trump's opinion that it was better to be dealing with it now and that it would have been bad to have had that story come out before the election. hicks appeared nervous throughout her appearance on the stand, and after that key exchange as defense attorneys were starting their cross-examination, hicks broke down in tears sorry about that. she said that she returned to the stand. and when trump's >> full to him. >> now the big question is, who will take the stand on monday next week is actually the first full four day week
she also told the jury about conversations she had with former trump fixer michael cohen and trump when reports of karen mcdougal and stormy daniel's first surfaced in early november 2016, saying trump wanted to make sure that there was a denial of any kind of relationship in a significant moment or prosecutors hicks revealed trump communicated directly to her about the payment to daniels? i only know about one instance, sometime in the middle of february, mr. trump told me about it and trump...
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hicks, saying cohen sometimes "went rogue and created problems for trump's campaign. " michael cohen, "liked to call himself a fixer or mr. fix it, and it was only because he first broke it." joining me now, msnbc legal analyst, former u.s. attorney, barbara mcquaid, professor at university of michigan law school, cohost of the hashtag sisters in law podcast. her new book is attack from within, how disinformation is sabotaging america. barbara, thank you for coming to the saturday show. okay, barbara, am i making too much of hope hicks saying on the stand "i think mr. trump's opinion is, it was better to be dealing with it now, and it would have been bad to have that story come out before the election. " that seems to get at the election interference argument the prosecution has been making. again, or, am i making too much of it? >> no, i think you're absolutely right, jonathan. i think in fact it's no surprise this came at the end of her testimony as the prosecutors heard those words come out of her mouth they wisely sat down and said we are done here. everything she was saying was l
hicks, saying cohen sometimes "went rogue and created problems for trump's campaign. " michael cohen, "liked to call himself a fixer or mr. fix it, and it was only because he first broke it." joining me now, msnbc legal analyst, former u.s. attorney, barbara mcquaid, professor at university of michigan law school, cohost of the hashtag sisters in law podcast. her new book is attack from within, how disinformation is sabotaging america. barbara, thank you for coming to the...
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. >> and what about michael cohen in all? this? because he potentially could he plays a key role in this whole, in this whole case. and they've said they've tried the prosecution has tried to kind of soften the road for him a little bit by my telling the jury that not everybody has a perfectly clean record that they're going to be hearing from. >> but what about the testimony from hope hicks and her characterization of michael cohen? what kind of impact do you think that had on the jury in terms of how they're going to view him i don't think her characterizations will be as important as her cooperation where she provided as other witnesses already have a structure into which he can fill a lot of the first-hand information from from pecker who was the initial witness, the head of the national enquirer organization right down to hope hicks the prosecution has done a really solid job of cooperating what is going to be michael cohen's testimony. >> he can take it then a little bit further and fill in a few more gaps. >> but i've been f
. >> and what about michael cohen in all? this? because he potentially could he plays a key role in this whole, in this whole case. and they've said they've tried the prosecution has tried to kind of soften the road for him a little bit by my telling the jury that not everybody has a perfectly clean record that they're going to be hearing from. >> but what about the testimony from hope hicks and her characterization of michael cohen? what kind of impact do you think that had on the...
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she criticized michael cohen who she said would go rogue and do things that were frustrating to campaign staff. she says he used to like to call himself mr. fix it but it was only because he first broke it. company it is expected to be a key witness in the case for today trump is back in palm beach, florida he has headlined the rnc spring donut retreat and possible running mates once again slams the trial for keeping him off the campaign trail. >> we are in a courthouse and any one i would say 10 states where i would like to be right now per. >> trump said he will make a decision about a vp until closer to the republican national convention in july. jon: madeline thank you. for more on this and on the campus protests across america let's bring in fox news contributor joe concha. so, we had a couple weeks of this trial already paid what is your assessment of it? >> this case appears to be more of a trial in search of a crime and also more about the man donald trump than anything actually illegal. if you look at any sane and sober at legal analyst out of the question is always the same. ex
she criticized michael cohen who she said would go rogue and do things that were frustrating to campaign staff. she says he used to like to call himself mr. fix it but it was only because he first broke it. company it is expected to be a key witness in the case for today trump is back in palm beach, florida he has headlined the rnc spring donut retreat and possible running mates once again slams the trial for keeping him off the campaign trail. >> we are in a courthouse and any one i...
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michael cohen will testify to that, i'm sure. and by signing those checks and calling them legal expenses, that's fraud. and -- which is a misdemeanor, but that fraud for the purpose of effecting the election makes it a felony. and they're establishing in hope hicks' testimony and testimony establishes very well as i'm sure collin will say the same thing that it was for the purpose of efkting the election. cohen is a difficult witness because he has lied on other things and they will try to impeach his testimony, but the testimony by hicks and by peck er and davidson all corroborates what cohen will say. >> and the actual check signed by donald trump to him was if his legal expenses, no one ever explained, well, what legal work did he do for that exact amount of money. >> that's right. >> this is going to be very interesting. thank you for being with us, as always, congressman jerry nadler. let's bring in our political panel, ameisha cross, democratic strategist and a contributor for the daily beast. and susan, republican strateg
michael cohen will testify to that, i'm sure. and by signing those checks and calling them legal expenses, that's fraud. and -- which is a misdemeanor, but that fraud for the purpose of effecting the election makes it a felony. and they're establishing in hope hicks' testimony and testimony establishes very well as i'm sure collin will say the same thing that it was for the purpose of efkting the election. cohen is a difficult witness because he has lied on other things and they will try to...
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so what that tells me is that michael cohen is the key here. and trump and his lawyers will destroy him. i think there is something very important to go back to end it is fundamental. the people have the obligation to prove this case beyond a reasonable out to 12 people come it has to be a unanimous verdict. and if there is an explanation other than what the prosecution suggests, that is reasonable doubt right there. so hope hicks said today that donald trump, when he heard about the information coming out, i don't know, about which woman, he said, don't let melania at the newspapers, i don't want her seeing anything. that is proof positive that this was not about a campaign contribution. this was about saving his marriage, and he didn't want to get in trouble, which is the classic example of why men enter into nda's. >> katie: well, greg, if michael cohen is the ultimate witness, i'm sure he will save the case. >> greg: this guy, davidson, they make michael avenatti look like thurgood marshall. these key witnesses are so slimy they leave a tra
so what that tells me is that michael cohen is the key here. and trump and his lawyers will destroy him. i think there is something very important to go back to end it is fundamental. the people have the obligation to prove this case beyond a reasonable out to 12 people come it has to be a unanimous verdict. and if there is an explanation other than what the prosecution suggests, that is reasonable doubt right there. so hope hicks said today that donald trump, when he heard about the...
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hicks said she was skeptical about cohen's motives, saying, i didn't know michael to be in especially charitable person or selfless person, higgs described trump's assessment of the story, saying it was mr. trump's opinion is that it was better to be dealing with it now and that it would have been bad to have that story come out before the election as trump's attorney, emile bove, you went to take over questioning. hicks began to cry after a break, bogey focused on cohen trying to show he had no role in the campaign and would act on his own hicks testified cohen was not supposed to be on the campaign in an official capacity, but would try to insert himself at certain moments. she said cohen often did things that were unauthorized by the campaign and that is sometimes went rogue according official tells me that donald trump paid the $9,000 fine for violating the gag order. hope six testimony completes the second week of witness testimony in this trial. the jury has heard a lot about the catch-and-kill deals at the center of this case, the next phase is the alleged cover up. kara scanne
hicks said she was skeptical about cohen's motives, saying, i didn't know michael to be in especially charitable person or selfless person, higgs described trump's assessment of the story, saying it was mr. trump's opinion is that it was better to be dealing with it now and that it would have been bad to have that story come out before the election as trump's attorney, emile bove, you went to take over questioning. hicks began to cry after a break, bogey focused on cohen trying to show he had...
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also, michael cohen had said with respect to the payments he had sent to mr. davidson, maybe i will have to pay on my own. donald trump will not pay in advance. there is a lot of concern about how will they link donald trump to the actual hush money payments with respect to stormy daniels. david pecker had already given a link with respect to karen mcdougal at the doorman but the case is really about the stormy daniels payments and her picks, a reluctant witness who tearfully said -- this is from within the trump campaign -- donald trump told her that he was aware that michael cohen had made these hush money payments. he tried to say i only learned after the fact. by the way, it doesn't matter. as long as he learned it and knew it before he was making all of these reimbursement payments, that is good enough. hope hicks -- >> if you reimburse someone for buying you crap, use are still on the hook. >> yeah. she also suggested she did not believe donald trump's story, that this was something that michael cohen did out of the goodness of his heart. she said, that
also, michael cohen had said with respect to the payments he had sent to mr. davidson, maybe i will have to pay on my own. donald trump will not pay in advance. there is a lot of concern about how will they link donald trump to the actual hush money payments with respect to stormy daniels. david pecker had already given a link with respect to karen mcdougal at the doorman but the case is really about the stormy daniels payments and her picks, a reluctant witness who tearfully said -- this is...
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she criticize michael cohen who she said would go rogue do things that were frustrating to campaign staff but she sent you he used to like to call himself mr. fix it but it was only because he first broke it. cohen is expected to be a key witness in the case today trump is back in palm beach, florida he is h headlining the rnc donut retreat mingling with wealthy donors and possible running mates as he once again slams the trial for keeping him off the campaign trail. >> i'm outside the we are in the courthouse instead of being any one i was take 10 states were i would like to be right now books trump said it would not make a decision about a vp until closer to the republican national convention in july. arthel: madeleine rivera at thank you. see for signs of a potential breakthrough in cairo where the cia director arab negotiators are trying to hammer out a gaza cease-fire deal between hamas and israel. the latest on those fragile talks cap next. when you're a small business owner, your to-do list can be...a lot. ♪ [ cellphone whooshes ] [ sighs ] that's why progressive makes it easy to
she criticize michael cohen who she said would go rogue do things that were frustrating to campaign staff but she sent you he used to like to call himself mr. fix it but it was only because he first broke it. cohen is expected to be a key witness in the case today trump is back in palm beach, florida he is h headlining the rnc donut retreat mingling with wealthy donors and possible running mates as he once again slams the trial for keeping him off the campaign trail. >> i'm outside the we...
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but what she did was also impugn the credibility tremendously of michael cohen saying luck. he was always trying to get in the room. he was always trying to be part of the campaign. he wasn't supposed to be. they didn't want them in the room, but he kept trying to get in the room and she also said he tended to go rogue she gave a lot of background on how the trump campaign was feeling after that access hollywood tape came out. do you think that the prosecution was able to paint a picture of trump? being politically motivated and silencing stormy daniels. i hear you when you're saying you could just say like, yeah, i guess it's hindsight 2020, it is good that it came out before, but do you think they were eight able to drive home. that point that it was politically motivated sure. >> sure. they're driving home. the point that the campaign was concerned about anything especially this issue, right? in that moment. sure. the campaign was very concerned about shore. donald trump was very concerned about it. that's campaigns. that's, that's what you have to worry about. all of typ
but what she did was also impugn the credibility tremendously of michael cohen saying luck. he was always trying to get in the room. he was always trying to be part of the campaign. he wasn't supposed to be. they didn't want them in the room, but he kept trying to get in the room and she also said he tended to go rogue she gave a lot of background on how the trump campaign was feeling after that access hollywood tape came out. do you think that the prosecution was able to paint a picture of...
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michael cohen is coming. that will be an interesting piece of testimony to watch and others from inside the trump organization. the key piece of this case is the documents. in many ways, it is a documents case. like anyone who writes checks for corporation and certainly for trump, who is very cautious about his own money, he would have been shown invoices, the back of documentation. the government will put that case together. >> have you noticed any missteps from the prosecution or defense? >> if you're the defense, having your client sleeping in the courtroom is not a good look. it conveys a lack of respect for the process and jurors notice every little detail. they will notice things like that. the lawyers are doing a good job. the prosecution, i think, has been very straightforward. they are simply checking off the box of the elements of proof that they have to establish that when they stand up in closing argument they can tell the jury here are the elements of the crime and here is our proof for every ele
michael cohen is coming. that will be an interesting piece of testimony to watch and others from inside the trump organization. the key piece of this case is the documents. in many ways, it is a documents case. like anyone who writes checks for corporation and certainly for trump, who is very cautious about his own money, he would have been shown invoices, the back of documentation. the government will put that case together. >> have you noticed any missteps from the prosecution or...
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she confirmed that donald trump was talking to people, especially finally, michael cohen, who was the architect of this scheme and was the one getting it done and she did confirm also, although she also said that he did care about what millennia thought, but she confirmed that this really was all about the campaign that, that is what they were concerned about when it comes to these issues that he had with women coming public hello, aid to talk about relationships that they had had with him. >> so she helped establish those things, but the prosecution needs to be able to establish our argue that those payments were were not handled properly, which is where the crime is digit she is her testimony helping the prosecution establish that a crime was committed it is not she was not involved in any of the bookkeeping of the trump organization. >> she was clear that she was on the campaign. sayyed and then in the white house, she doesn't have anything to say about out the underlying crime charged of the fraudulent financial documents. her involvement was on the second crime, if you will, the
she confirmed that donald trump was talking to people, especially finally, michael cohen, who was the architect of this scheme and was the one getting it done and she did confirm also, although she also said that he did care about what millennia thought, but she confirmed that this really was all about the campaign that, that is what they were concerned about when it comes to these issues that he had with women coming public hello, aid to talk about relationships that they had had with him....
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first of all, talking about the payment that he was aware of it and michael cohen paid it. he said all along it was legal fees. as we get to the back end of the case we will be talking about the falsification of documents. his claim all along was that it was for legal fees and not a payment for stormy daniels. i think that was pretty critical. another piece of the conversation with the interaction between hope hicks and donald trump in 2018 and he said better it comes out now than during the election. i just think in the end it is not going to look good. >> at any time would hurt the family. >> he had a recognition that it was good that it did not come out during the election. >> the point there on cross- examination defense attorneys asked her if cohen ever went broke. she said yes. she said he used to say he likes to call himself mr. fix- it and it was only because he first broke it. charles, do you think this will be how the defense frames the case to the jury that michael cohen went rogue and paying off stormy daniels? >> absolutely. you have seen the defense do that wh
first of all, talking about the payment that he was aware of it and michael cohen paid it. he said all along it was legal fees. as we get to the back end of the case we will be talking about the falsification of documents. his claim all along was that it was for legal fees and not a payment for stormy daniels. i think that was pretty critical. another piece of the conversation with the interaction between hope hicks and donald trump in 2018 and he said better it comes out now than during the...
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at when they plan to call the man at the center of this alleged conspiracy, michael cohen, paula reid, cnn, new york. >> all right. thanks so much, paula. so with core two on break this weekend candidate trump is in florida meeting with top republican donors and potential running mate's at the annual rnc's spring retreat in florida cnn's alayna treene is in palm beach for us. so alayna, what can you tell us about this gathering while fred donald trump has been trading the courtroom for florida and florida banquet halls, i should say this weekend, he is currently at a fundraiser right now at his mar-a-lago resort. >> and this is all happening winning during the rnc's annual retreat. now, during that retreat, that they hold every year, you always have wealthy donors and the high-profile republican leaders come together. but this year it was really interesting is that many of the special guests who have been attending are some of those on donald trump's list to be his running mate. that includes people like a senator tim scott, ohio senator j.d. vance, north dakota north dakota governor
at when they plan to call the man at the center of this alleged conspiracy, michael cohen, paula reid, cnn, new york. >> all right. thanks so much, paula. so with core two on break this weekend candidate trump is in florida meeting with top republican donors and potential running mate's at the annual rnc's spring retreat in florida cnn's alayna treene is in palm beach for us. so alayna, what can you tell us about this gathering while fred donald trump has been trading the courtroom for...
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she criticized michael cohen who she said would go rogue and do things that were frustrating to campaign staff. she said he used to like to call himself mr. fix-it it's only because he first broke it. cohen is expected to be a key witness in the case. today trump is back in palm beach, florida he's headlining rnc spring donut retreat mingling with wealthy donors and possible running mates he once again slams the trial for keeping him off the campaign trail. >> went courthouse and said being in georgia. we are in the courthouse instead of being in anyone i would save 10 states where i'd like to be right now >> trump said he will not make a decision about avp until closer to the republican national convention in july. jonathan: matter group thank you very much and we will be right back. and i saved hundreds. that's great. i know, right? i've been telling everyone. baby: liberty. did you hear that? ty just said her first word. can you say “mama”? baby: liberty. can you say “auntie”? baby: liberty. how many people did you tell? only pay for what you need. jingle: ♪ liberty. liberty
she criticized michael cohen who she said would go rogue and do things that were frustrating to campaign staff. she said he used to like to call himself mr. fix-it it's only because he first broke it. cohen is expected to be a key witness in the case. today trump is back in palm beach, florida he's headlining rnc spring donut retreat mingling with wealthy donors and possible running mates he once again slams the trial for keeping him off the campaign trail. >> went courthouse and said...
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first of all, that trump had direct knowledge that michael cohen was paying hush money. it wasn't for legal expenses or legal retainers. second fall, she cast doubt on the theory of the case that trump has been pushing, which was that this was michael cohen freelancing, he was going rogue, acting out of supposed selflessness because she said michael cohen is not that kind of guy. he doesn't act selflessly, he likes to take credit. >> the beginning of the testimony, if we go back to that with you, katie, this was about the campaign scramble, when they were hearing about the access hollywood tape. the new it would be released. let's take a listen to that part of the testimony or give you a brief refreshing because we can't hear the testimony but here it is. >> it's like a magnet. when you're a star, they let you do it. you can do anything. >> okay. that can't be entered into evidence but the jury was allowed to hear it. talk about how that played into hope hicks testimony, about the campaign reaction to this and what she laid out. >> it is fascinating because the reason wh
first of all, that trump had direct knowledge that michael cohen was paying hush money. it wasn't for legal expenses or legal retainers. second fall, she cast doubt on the theory of the case that trump has been pushing, which was that this was michael cohen freelancing, he was going rogue, acting out of supposed selflessness because she said michael cohen is not that kind of guy. he doesn't act selflessly, he likes to take credit. >> the beginning of the testimony, if we go back to that...
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cohen would often go rogue and that he made this payment purportedly or he as in michael cohen told donald trump he had made this payment to be selfless and to help him out? let's be frank, every time michael cohen has testified, there has been corroboration coming up for him in his testimony. whether you like him or not, michael cohen has said the truth and we've seen it in the documentation. is the jury able to pick up on the nuances on this? do you think they are able to glean that what hope hicks was saying yesterday was not true in terms of what donald trump told her? >> she was pretty clear when she said that, when michael cohen gave her this story and even donald trump gave her the story that he just did this because he was being terrible. she didn't buy it. she said he's not a terrible person. he is someone who claims credit. i don't think that really was something, the jury has heard so much about michael coming from everybody, most of it being really negative. even though he hasn't taken the stand, they painted this picture of him as somebody who worked under the authority
cohen would often go rogue and that he made this payment purportedly or he as in michael cohen told donald trump he had made this payment to be selfless and to help him out? let's be frank, every time michael cohen has testified, there has been corroboration coming up for him in his testimony. whether you like him or not, michael cohen has said the truth and we've seen it in the documentation. is the jury able to pick up on the nuances on this? do you think they are able to glean that what hope...
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michael cohen is a failed cooperator. the southern district of new york not being known to be timid for prosecutions, set him up with the plea to be a guy to testify against donald trump and they had co-conspirator number one. and to add to the timeline, it's not necessarily a smoking gun gun, a guy number three ranked at the department of justice. bragg said we're not going to do this case and suddenly colangelo, he gets home sick and goes with bragg and all of a sudden indict on this case. and this case and others popping up. >> and you've mentioned michael cohen, but he's been convicted for perjury and disbarred. how does he have credibility in this case. well, 12 people are going to tell you whether he has credibility. and the defense is best serve by not attacking every witness full bore, but saving it and reining it in. you've got a wealth-- i teach a criminal case in college, cohen on this one, this went, to have a guy convicted of perjury is a gold standard. to have a guy going to the media every year and blasting
michael cohen is a failed cooperator. the southern district of new york not being known to be timid for prosecutions, set him up with the plea to be a guy to testify against donald trump and they had co-conspirator number one. and to add to the timeline, it's not necessarily a smoking gun gun, a guy number three ranked at the department of justice. bragg said we're not going to do this case and suddenly colangelo, he gets home sick and goes with bragg and all of a sudden indict on this case....
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cohen's $130,000 payment to daniels to buy and kill her story of an alleged affair with trump cohen told the new york times in 2018 that he made the payment from his own pocket hicks said she was skeptical about cohen's motives, saying, i didn't know michael to be in especially charitable person or selfless person, higgs described trump's assessment of the story, saying it was mr. trump's opinion is that it was better to be dealing with it now and that it would have been bad it's i have that story come out before the election. has trump's attorney, emile bove, you went to take over questioning. hicks began to cry after a break, bogey focused on cohen trying to show he had no role in the campaign and would act on his own. hicks testified cohen was not supposed to be on the campaign in an official capacity, but would try to insert himself at certain moments. she said cohen often did things that were unauthorized by the campaign. and that is sometimes went rogue. accord official tells me that donald trump paid the $9,000 fine for violating the gag order. hope six testimony completes th
cohen's $130,000 payment to daniels to buy and kill her story of an alleged affair with trump cohen told the new york times in 2018 that he made the payment from his own pocket hicks said she was skeptical about cohen's motives, saying, i didn't know michael to be in especially charitable person or selfless person, higgs described trump's assessment of the story, saying it was mr. trump's opinion is that it was better to be dealing with it now and that it would have been bad it's i have that...